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Omiljeni lik/likovi u serijalu i zašto

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 Re: Omiljeni lik/likovi u serijalu i zašto

Postod Nemini u Pet Okt 21, 2005 12:44 pm

@Deamon Blackfire
Slažem se. To samo objašnjava njegovo ponašanje, ali ga ni u kom slučaju ne opravdava.
@Margiloth
Mislim da će je Tirion naći i ponovo izgubiti. Nemam ni jedan racionalan razlog, prosto imam takav osećaj.
Što se Maloprstića tiče, potpuno delim tvoje mišljenje. Nekako me on najviše plaši od svih, zato što je inteligentan, zao i zna šta želi. Ipak, ako pogledaš proročanstvo  izrečeno Arji u kojem se najavljuje crvena svadba, kao i smrt na svadbenoj gozbi, na kraju se kaže da će ona ista devica, „sa ljubičastim zmijama u kosi, iz čijih kandži sipa otrov“ , ubiti „strašnog džina u zamku sagradjenom od snega“. Čini mi se sa ta devica može samo biti Houndova ptičica,  dok je strašni džin metafora Titanove glave na Maloprstićevom grbu. Šta je, medjutim, zamak od snega, pojma nemam, osim ako se to ne odnosi na Zimovrel koji je Sansa napravila u Gnezdu Sokolovom. (Izvinjavam se ako je neko ovo primetio pre mene. Nisam stigla da pročitam sve postove.)
I ponovo u vezi sa Nedovom smrću.
Kao što reče Pioneerkov avatar u, btw jednom od mojih omiljenih filmova - žene i deca mogu sebi dozvoliti da budu nesmotreni, ali muškarci ne. Pogotovo  ne tako visoki lordovi kao Stark.
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Postod Margiloth u Pet Okt 21, 2005 1:22 pm

"Will fate seduce you to her will?
Not if you struggle with all your Skill.
Summon your allies, locate the trained,
Consummate all from what you’ve refrained.
There’s a future not yet fashioned,
Founded by your fiery passions!"
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Postod Aradela u Pet Okt 21, 2005 1:32 pm

Kazes mi da moram da nestanem
Kao cvece koje negujem
Nista od mog imena da ne ostane
Nista slavno da ne postane
Ali jos su mlade baste koje zalivah
Pevace se opet pesme koje pevah.


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Postod High Duke u Pet Okt 21, 2005 1:32 pm

Let your blows fall because faith is my shield and valor is my sword

A knight is sworn to valour
His hearth know only virtue
His blade defends the helpless
His might upholds the weak
His words speak only truth
His wrath undoes the wicked
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Postod Aradela u Pet Okt 21, 2005 1:39 pm

Kazes mi da moram da nestanem
Kao cvece koje negujem
Nista od mog imena da ne ostane
Nista slavno da ne postane
Ali jos su mlade baste koje zalivah
Pevace se opet pesme koje pevah.


moj blog http://doktorkabg.blogspot.com/[/color]
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Postod Eladan u Pet Okt 21, 2005 1:52 pm

...To stand against the Shadow so long as iron is hard and stone abides. To defend the weak while one drop of blood remains. To avenge what cannot be defended...
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Postod dkdnt u Pet Okt 21, 2005 4:22 pm

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Postod dkdnt u Pet Okt 21, 2005 4:34 pm

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Postod Maidros Visoki u Pet Okt 21, 2005 9:12 pm

The lunatic is in my head.
The lunatic is in my head.
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Postod JohntrA u Sub Okt 22, 2005 12:08 am

ma nije bash tako. chitao sam knjigu odavno (januarski ispitni rok tachnije, vidi se i po rezultatima) ali mi se chini da tivin nije odvajkada bio vakav. ne setjam se tachno shta ga je promenilo ali mi se chini da je to bila smrt neke devojke il shtavetj. barakuda, pomagaj!

i da tema o gotivnim likovima a niko tormunda da pomene. ccc
Gripping the wheel his knuckles went white with desire
The wheels of his mustang exploding on the highway like a slug from a .45
True death: 400 horsepower of maximum performance piercing the night
This is black sunshine
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Postod Nemini u Sub Okt 22, 2005 12:06 pm

@dkdnt                                                                                                                Kao što i sam znaš, nisi me ubedio, ali si me dirnuo svojom verom u inače tako osporavanu, krhku kategoriju, kao što čast. Čast je teška reč.
Mogla bih da se potpišem iza svakog reda u kojem analiziraš etički simbolizam Severa koji zaista predstavlja oličenje istrajnosti u poštovanju moralnih principa, i reper za čitav Vesteros (mada, opet, ne znam zašto bi Tuliji bili manje časni). Sam moto Lorda Severa, kao i simbolika Severa (surove zime, teški uslovi života koji od ljudi zahtevaju disciplinu , što se automatski preslikava i na shvatanje morala) ukazuje na izvesnu strogost koje nema u toplijim podnebljima gde se živi daleko lagodnije.
Ni na kraj pameti mi nije ni da osporavam činjenicu da je poštovanje moralnih principa neminovno i uzrok patnje. To se samo po sebi razume.
Slažem se i u tome da je Ned Stark uradio jedino što je mogao, sledeći put kojim je išao čitavog života i koji ga je doveo do onakve smrti, i da bi sve drugo bila izdaja ne samo Brendona Zidara &.co., već i čitave koncepcije tog lika. Da je postupio na neki drugi način, jednostavno ne bi bilo zapleta. Drugim rečima, mislim da razumem njegov lik u kontekstu čitave priče, kao i to šta je Martin hteo da nam kaže njime.
Nisi ti mene razumeo. Jer, za mene, nije pitanje da li za čast vredi umreti. Stvar je u tome kako će posle smrti heroja živeti oni koje je po ljudskim i božanskim zakonima bio dužan da štiti, uključujući i zemlju čiji je gospodar bio.
Odgovori mi, molim te, samo na dva pitanja.
Šta misliš o poslednjim rečima Neda Starka i da li smatraš postupak Ledi Kejtlin nečasnim?
...I da, primetila sam da se tvoj nick piše malim slovima. Bio je to samo nedužni lapsus calami...
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Postod Aducabar u Sub Okt 22, 2005 1:35 pm


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Postod dkdnt u Sub Okt 22, 2005 2:13 pm

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Postod Telcontar Elessar u Sub Okt 22, 2005 5:21 pm

Bullets fly, I pulled the trigger
Revenge is mine, sweet and bitter
Welcome to my hell on earth
this time you'll get hurt
I reload my gun, get ready to run
Fuck your life I'm just having fun
Your time is up, I'll never stop
I'll make you rot, I'll fill your grave
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Postod Margiloth u Sub Okt 22, 2005 5:39 pm

"Will fate seduce you to her will?
Not if you struggle with all your Skill.
Summon your allies, locate the trained,
Consummate all from what you’ve refrained.
There’s a future not yet fashioned,
Founded by your fiery passions!"
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