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Django Unchained

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 Re: Django Unchained

Postod Dain u Čet Feb 28, 2013 12:06 am

"Willing is not enough, we must do. Knowing is not enough, we must apply."

"I don't like jellyfish, they're not a fish, they're just a blob
They don't have eyes, fins or scales, like a cod
They float about stingin' people in the seas
An' no one eats jellyfish with chips and mushy peas.
Get rid of them!"
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 Re: Django Unchained

Postod S u Pet Mar 01, 2013 12:37 pm

Meni se film dopao, kao i ovdje kudjeni Inglorius Basterds. Interesantan mi je bio i pored duzine, mada mislim da bi valjalo da se malo skrati. Kadrovi, muzika i sve sto ide uz to je odlicno. Scenario je taman koliko treba, nema neke velike poruke u dijalogu, ali mi se cini da postoje poruke izmedju redove. Recimo scena nasilja ima bas mnogo izuzev kada je nasilje nad crncima robovima. Moguce je da ja ucitavam poruku koje nema (ali sumnjam da je ista slucajno i da Tarantino ciji likovi mogu da farbaju kucu litrima krvi koje imaju) ali rekao bih da je to dobar politicki komentar o tome koliko istorije se namjerno zamagljuje, kroz udzbenike, filmove i sve ostalo. Ima jos par takvih scena. Takodje mislim da je tema upravo oslobodjenje i da je fino prikazana - slobodu Djangu niko nije dao, vec je on sam zadobija negdje pred kraj. Nista novo i spektakularno, ali fimo upakovano. Sve u svemu, jedan od boljih filmova prethodne godine a i Tarantina, po mom iskrenom misljenju.
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 Re: Django Unchained

Postod Julius u Pet Mar 01, 2013 4:38 pm

Kao i svaki Tarantinov film-ti ako zelis dubinu,poruku i ozbiljan film,ti ces to naci (fiktivno ti) i niko te nece opasuljiti da toga tu mozda nema. Jedan od boljih njegovih filmova,da,ali ga to ne čini ničim drugim nego jednim od boljih njegovih filmova. Zabavan je,i to je to.
Živimo sramno, da sahrane nas ponosne.
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 Re: Django Unchained

Postod Iluvatar u Pet Mar 01, 2013 4:55 pm

Daine, poslucacu tvoj predlog(moguce da je Vampriska verzija, ona prava)...

"Pravi" Linkoln je propagadno sranje, to sto je lepo upakovano, i deluje ''ozbiljno" ga ne ceni istorijski verodostojnim...

Istorijski Linkoln je bio potpuno drugacijih shvatanja od lika prikazanog u gorepomenutom ostvaranju...

Citat koji to ilustruje:
“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”

by:
Abraham Lincoln
(1809-1865) 16th US President
Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858
(The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume III, pp. 145-146.)

Sa druge strane, Django, koji nema takve pretenzije, mnogo realnije prikazuje odnos izmedju rasa, razne oblike rasizma(ukljucujuci i crne prodavce robova) odnosno pribliznije istorijskim; ... Npr scena sa DiKaprijem i lobanjom
(takve "'naucne" knjige su postojale, a postoje i dan danas). Evidentno fantazija ipak iza sebe ima mnogo toga sto je utemeljeno na odnosima i vrednostima tog istorijakog perioda... (To sto bivsi rob oslobadja svoju dragu i u tom procesu potamani 100nak ljudi, i sravni sa zemljom najozloglaseniju izmisljenu plantazu, ne umanjuje vrednost filma; karakterizacija ili sveukupnog scenarija)
Da skratim, ponekad treba pogledati mimo fasade...

A mozei jos jedan citat iz gospodara
"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost."
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 Re: Django Unchained

Postod Julius u Sre Mar 06, 2013 1:28 am

Slika
Jesus Unchained!
Živimo sramno, da sahrane nas ponosne.
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 Re: Django Unchained

Postod Iluvatar u Uto Mar 12, 2013 5:21 pm

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