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Grčka mitologija II

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Postod Rainbow u Sre Nov 30, 2005 3:49 am

Mrzim i volim. Pitaces me mozda zasto to radim. Ne znam, osecam da je tako i to me muci.
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Postod Aradela u Sre Nov 30, 2005 9:27 am

Kazes mi da moram da nestanem
Kao cvece koje negujem
Nista od mog imena da ne ostane
Nista slavno da ne postane
Ali jos su mlade baste koje zalivah
Pevace se opet pesme koje pevah.


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Postod alcesta u Sre Nov 30, 2005 7:30 pm

What if you slept? And what if, in your sleep, you dreamed? And what if, in your dream, you went to heaven and there plucked a strange and beautiful flower? And what if, when you awoke, you had the flower in your hand? Ah, what then?
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Postod Rainbow u Pet Dec 02, 2005 1:11 am

Hibris je jedan od kljucnih problema Homerovih junaka (posle su od njega preuzeli Sofokle i ostali), a mozda moze prevesti kao ``preterivanje``. Patroklov hibris je kada jurisa na zidine Troje a trebao je da samo odbrani mirmidonske ladje ili Diomedov napad na Afroditu i Apolona, Parisova zelja za Helenom... Naravno najizrazeniji je kod Ahileja ciji se ceo zivot moze definisati tim pojmom. To je u stvari neumoljiva zelja svakog smrtnika da cini dela poput bogova. Ono sto me posebno zanima je cinjenica da je Diomed preziveo iako je sklon hibrisu. Kako se to dogodilo?
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Postod Aradela u Pet Dec 02, 2005 9:11 am

Kazes mi da moram da nestanem
Kao cvece koje negujem
Nista od mog imena da ne ostane
Nista slavno da ne postane
Ali jos su mlade baste koje zalivah
Pevace se opet pesme koje pevah.


moj blog http://doktorkabg.blogspot.com/[/color]
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Postod alcesta u Pet Dec 02, 2005 4:36 pm

What if you slept? And what if, in your sleep, you dreamed? And what if, in your dream, you went to heaven and there plucked a strange and beautiful flower? And what if, when you awoke, you had the flower in your hand? Ah, what then?
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Postod Rainbow u Ned Dec 04, 2005 10:06 pm

Mrzim i volim. Pitaces me mozda zasto to radim. Ne znam, osecam da je tako i to me muci.
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Postod alcesta u Ned Dec 04, 2005 10:42 pm

What if you slept? And what if, in your sleep, you dreamed? And what if, in your dream, you went to heaven and there plucked a strange and beautiful flower? And what if, when you awoke, you had the flower in your hand? Ah, what then?
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Postod Rainbow u Ned Dec 04, 2005 11:30 pm

Ajant je dobar decko, nedeljom ide u crkvu.
Ne znam ja za to ubijanje poglavara i pokolj ovaca, jel se to odigrava u Ilijadi ili Odiseji?
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Postod alcesta u Ned Dec 04, 2005 11:44 pm

To je posle kraja Ilijade, ne secam se pominje li se u Odiseji, ali imas u svakoj zbirci mitova, a ima i par tragedija na tu temu. Posle Ahilejeve smrti njegovo oruzje trebalo je da pripadne junaku koji su najvise istakao medju Grcima. Odisej je bio dovoljno vest da ubedi Grke da oruzje treba da pripadne njemu, iako je po pravu bilo Ajantovo. Ajant nije mogao da podnese uvredu i pao mu je mrak na oci, pa je krenuo da usred noci upadne u satore grckih vojskovodja i napravi masakr. Medjutim bogovi su na njega poslali ludilo pa je umesto toga poklao obliznje stado ovaca. Kad je dosao svesti, video je da je nepovratno osramocen i bacio se na svoj mac.
What if you slept? And what if, in your sleep, you dreamed? And what if, in your dream, you went to heaven and there plucked a strange and beautiful flower? And what if, when you awoke, you had the flower in your hand? Ah, what then?
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Postod Strider u Sub Feb 18, 2006 2:36 pm

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I won't sympathize
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Postod alcesta u Sub Feb 18, 2006 3:14 pm

What if you slept? And what if, in your sleep, you dreamed? And what if, in your dream, you went to heaven and there plucked a strange and beautiful flower? And what if, when you awoke, you had the flower in your hand? Ah, what then?
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Postod shadowfax u Sub Feb 18, 2006 5:50 pm

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Postod alcesta u Sub Feb 18, 2006 7:46 pm

Prisustvo bogova nije neophodno da bi film bio dobar. To sto nije bio dobar ima vise veze sa drugim stvarima. Inace, specijalno za trojanski mitove imas temu
http://www.tolkien.co.yu/lite/viewtopic.php?t=2944
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What if you slept? And what if, in your sleep, you dreamed? And what if, in your dream, you went to heaven and there plucked a strange and beautiful flower? And what if, when you awoke, you had the flower in your hand? Ah, what then?
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 Re: Grčka mitologija II

Postod iceman u Ned Feb 19, 2006 9:49 pm

Ima li neko da kaze nesto vise o rekama u Hadovom carstvu? Znam da postoje 5 reka od kojih su: ledeni Stiks, Aheront-reka naricanja, Kokit-reka zalosti, ognjena reka Piriflegeton i Leta cije vode su cinile da se sve ovozemaljsko zaboravi.

O reci Stiks vise-manje znam a i o Aherontu, ali ostale reke su mi potpuna nepoznanica. Imate li vise informacija o njima? Poznato mi je da je Sizif umakao iz Hada, postoji li neko delo koje opisuje njegovo bekstvo iz Hada? Takodje, tu su i anticki heroji Herkul, Orfej, Odisej i Eneja koji su umakli iz Hada i za taj deo bekstva sam zainteresovan. Nikad mi nije dosta! ;) Postoji li neka enciklopedija helenske mitologije na srpskom u kome je sve to lepo i fino objasnjeno? Samo nemojte Grivsa ko boga vas molim, tip me je razocarao sa njegovim delom Homerova kci. Voleo bih da enciklopedija ima ilustracije, jerbo lakse pamtim informacije ako ima slika :D

P.S. I objasnite mi sta bi sa starovremenskim prevodiocima koji su reku Stiks prevodili kao Stig ili Stiga, u zenskom rodu? Na cemu su to bili, pobogu? Kako se pise i cita Stiks na izvornom jeziku odnosno na helenskom?

P.P.S. Alcesta, davi me slobodno, ali polako i detaljno :D
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