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Postod black dwarf u Uto Apr 29, 2003 7:11 pm

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Postod alcesta u Sre Apr 30, 2003 12:54 pm

Jao ljudi, sad ste mi ubacili bubu u glavu...
Definitivno nije "Gorski Vijenac", a skoro sam sigurna da nije ni Njegoš...a garantovano se neću setiti dok mi neko ne kaže...
E ovakve gluposti mi nekad ne daju da zaspim, ako možete da poverujete...grrrrrrr...

Btw, Gil, reci kako više voliš pa ćemo te tako i zvati... ;-)
What if you slept? And what if, in your sleep, you dreamed? And what if, in your dream, you went to heaven and there plucked a strange and beautiful flower? And what if, when you awoke, you had the flower in your hand? Ah, what then?
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Postod black dwarf u Sre Apr 30, 2003 12:58 pm

A da se mi vratimo malo na temu?? ;) Ozbiljno, imamo problem vampira, recimo...dakle, ko zna nešto o vampirima neka digne ruku...
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Postod GilGaladriel u Sre Apr 30, 2003 1:15 pm

Ja josh nisam pochela da chitam ona tvoja skripta. Mada znam poneshto o vampirima, shto sam nashla kod Chajkanovica, u rechniku Slovenske Mitologije, u Alama i Baucima i josh na par mesta. Shta vas zanima?
Btw, sigurna sam da ce Maidros moci da nam zachini diskusiju nekom zanimljivom anegdotom...
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Postod black dwarf u Sre Apr 30, 2003 1:18 pm

To nisu skripte, to je knjiga. Ima još pored toga, u Zbornicima. Ipak, to je pojam koji je potekao sa ovih prostora.
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Postod GilGaladriel u Sre Apr 30, 2003 1:31 pm

Znam da je knjiga, ali je u formi skripta. I da, kazhe se skripta, a ne skripte, kao akta, fakta i dokumenta, imenica je ista.
Vampir jeste pojam koji potiche sa ovih prostora, ali se svuda naziva drugachije, recimo i leptir je negde ime za vampira. vampir-lampir-leptir. :)
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Postod black dwarf u Sre Apr 30, 2003 5:08 pm

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Postod GilGaladriel u Čet Maj 01, 2003 2:25 am

Zelenog choveka jesu svakako.
On je kod Slovena, kolko me secjanje sluzhi, bio isto shto i Pan kod Grka. *u sad ce Avadon da krene o djavolu*
A ima jako zanimljiv odeljak iz Veda na prvoj stranici ove teme. Prochitaj to, ima poneshto o bogovima... Vrrrrrrrrlo zanimljivo.
A vampr je najverovatnije, otelotvorenje straha zhivih od mrtvih koji je jedan od kljuchnih sastojaka u stvaranju natprirodnih bicja tipa gorepomenutog vampira.
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Postod black dwarf u Čet Maj 01, 2003 10:41 am

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Postod GilGaladriel u Čet Maj 01, 2003 5:35 pm

Da ali vampri ima velike veze sa kultom mrtvih, zato kazhem da je proistekao iz straha zhivih od mrtvih. On je jedino natprirodno bicje (u stvari mozhda ne jedino, ali svakako najzastupljenije) koje od choveka nastaje POSLE smrti. Dok veshtica, na primer, mora da preda svoje mocji naslednici pre nego shto umre.
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Postod black dwarf u Čet Maj 01, 2003 8:30 pm

Slažem se sa tobom, svakako, samo jedna infomracija: kada pročitaš Đorđevića videćeš da u nekim delovima ove zemlje veruju da vampir čovek može postati i za života. Ili sam ja to pobrkao da se on određuje za života da će biti vampir...shit... :(
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Postod de Hammo u Pet Maj 02, 2003 12:48 am

Kako rekoše kulturni jeleni "Dobro veče". kako divna tema, nisam mogao da odolim da se ne priključim.
Južnoslovenska plemena Srba (i Kroata, da budemo precizni) možda nisu svetu dala mnogo toga ali jedno definitivno jesu: reč VAMPIR je apsolutno i isključivo naša, etimologija je prati samo do tih južnoslovenskih plemena, odakle i legenda, a ima veze sa nekim od vidova transporta rečenog natprirtodnog bića, tj. leptira koga je neko vec pomenuo. Koren mu je u staroslovenskoj reči opir (ili upir), od "per" što je verovatno imalo značenje leteti ili žuriti... Trag je sačuvan npr. u reči netopir - hrvatsko ime za jednu vrstu slepog miša, ili "piriti" - duvati.
Inače je mitologija J. Slovena prebogata mračnim bićima, pa bih uz pomenute andre i omaje dodao i nezaobilazne sanđame i drekavce, kao i veoma mračne i tajnovite Todorce, koji me zbog nečega neodoljivo asociraju na mit o "Wilde Hunte" iz germansko-keltskog kulta...
Vampirski kult je još živ, a naročito u oblasti Miroča i istočne Srbije, stariji ljudi tamo vampite prihvataju kao normalnu stvar, a možete lako da nađete baku koja je u mladosti sretala ne jednog vampira. Uvreženo je mišljenje da ih sada nema tako mnogo jer im ne odgovara način života (tell me about it...)

Već je pomenuto i da se ponegde veruje da se vampir može postati i za života, a vampiri su, osim neobičnog načina ishrane, u našem narodu bili ponegde poznati i po svom aktivnom sexualnom životu 8)
Oblique strategy number 56: Balance the consistency principle with the inconsistency principle.
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Postod black dwarf u Pet Maj 02, 2003 12:56 am

Da, našao sam čak i to, da se dešavalo da žene zatrudne sa vampirom i da posle rode samo komad mesa ili nešto slično.
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Postod de Hammo u Pet Maj 02, 2003 1:25 am

Oblique strategy number 56: Balance the consistency principle with the inconsistency principle.
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Postod black dwarf u Pet Maj 02, 2003 11:41 am

The Green Man always strikes back
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