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Postojanje DUŠE ???

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 Re: Postojanje DUŠE ???

Postod duk u Ned Nov 21, 2010 11:16 pm

O da li je moguće? :lol:
russ66 se vratio :lol:

Neizmerno se radujem tvom povratku i moram da se ne složim sa tvojim viđenjem. :)

Možda ta životinja jeste pasivna, za vreme nepovoljnih uslova, ali tada se njene funkcije svode na minimum - sušto preživljavanje.
Kada se steknu uslovi, funkcije se penju na viši nivo i eto nas opet, hodamo. :)
Mislim da to nema veze sa duhom i dušom, već može sasvim lako naučno da se dokaže.

"..Za Boga je ipak najvažnija duša..."
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 Re: Postojanje DUŠE ???

Postod Earvena u Uto Avg 23, 2011 12:24 am

znam da ovo nema veze sa temom, ali gledala sam koja je tema najaktivnija ovde i pronadjoh ovu iz...2010. :P a necu da otvaram novu zbog jednog pitanja, brisite posle ovo.

elem, je l zna neko ko je rekao od filozofa da se "vestinom pisanja nista ne moze preneti?"
"I hate the way you talk to me,and the way you cut your hair,
I hate the way you drive my car, I hate it when you stare,
I hate your big dumb combat boots, and the way you read my mind,
I hate you so much it makes me sick it even makes me rhyme
I hate the way you`re always right, I hate it when you lie,
I hate you when you make me laugh,even worse when you make me cry
I hate it that you`re not around,and the fact you didn`t call,
but mostly i hate the way I don`t hate you
...not even close
...not even a little bit
...not even at all.."
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 Re: Postojanje DUŠE ???

Postod Maglor the Minstrel u Uto Avg 23, 2011 1:49 am

Pitagora ili Sokrat, obojica su mrzela da pisu. Malo ima ovde: http://www.scribd.com/doc/2572871/A-dic ... -of-Borges
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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 Re: Postojanje DUŠE ???

Postod Earvena u Uto Avg 23, 2011 9:47 am

o Boze, da Sokrat. Ja pod utiskom novije knjizevnosti, trazih kod modernih filozofa.
Fala cimer na recniku, mnogo ce pomoci! :D :*
"I hate the way you talk to me,and the way you cut your hair,
I hate the way you drive my car, I hate it when you stare,
I hate your big dumb combat boots, and the way you read my mind,
I hate you so much it makes me sick it even makes me rhyme
I hate the way you`re always right, I hate it when you lie,
I hate you when you make me laugh,even worse when you make me cry
I hate it that you`re not around,and the fact you didn`t call,
but mostly i hate the way I don`t hate you
...not even close
...not even a little bit
...not even at all.."
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 Re: Postojanje DUŠE ???

Postod Dante Al Igijeri u Sub Dec 22, 2012 4:04 pm

Da vam se i ja prikljucim u raspravi.Nov sam na ovom forumu i zelim da odmah kazem kakvi su moji filosofski stavovi,da znate sa kim imate posla. :)
Da krenemo od Kulina bana:
"U pocetku bese Logos,i Logos bese u Boga,i Logos bese Bog.'' (Jn 1,1)
Dakle,On je bio u pocetku,kada niststa drugo sem Njega nije postojalo.On je sam Sebi uzrok postojanja i nista Ga nije stvorilo,vec,naprotiv,On je Tvorac svega.
On stvara svet duhovni (Nebo) i svet materijalni (Zemlju) ni iz cega (1.Moj 1,1).Samim tim sto smo stvoreni ni iz cega,iz nebica privedeni u bice,mi smo podlozni smrtnosti i nasa dusa nije nuzno,sama po sebi,besmrtna.Ona svoju besmrtnost postize kroz zajednicu sa Bogom koji je izvor zivota.
Kada je stvoren Adam (sto nije ime za samo jednog coveka,vec za celokupno covecanstvo),on nije bio besmrtan,vec je trebao stremiti ka besmrtnosti kroz zajednicu sa Bogom.On je ipak pao i izgubio zajednicu sa Bogom,ali smrt nije nastupila kao kazna vec kao skretanje sa puta zivota na put smrti.Ali,Bog nam svojom neizmernom ljubavlju daje sansu za ponovni povratak na put zivota i ne vraca nas ponovo u nebice.
Elem,da se vratim na dusu.
"Savrseni covek sastavljen je od tri elementa - ploti,duse i duha;od kojih jedno,tj. duh,spasava i stvara,drugo,tj. pot,sjedinjava i obrazuje se,a srednje izmedju ta dva,tj. dusa,onda kada sleduje duhu,uzvisuje se njime,ponekad pak ugadjajuci ploti,pada u zemaljske pohote.'' (Sveti Irinej Lionski "Protiv jeresi", V, 9:1)
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 Re: Postojanje DUŠE ???

Postod Japet u Ned Dec 23, 2012 3:39 am

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 Re: Postojanje DUŠE ???

Postod Dante Al Igijeri u Ned Dec 23, 2012 10:03 am

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 Re: Postojanje DUŠE ???

Postod Japet u Ned Dec 23, 2012 9:59 pm

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Postod Dante Al Igijeri u Uto Dec 25, 2012 4:24 pm

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Postod Japet u Uto Dec 25, 2012 6:08 pm

Ali mora biti zajednice... U potpunosti se slazem sa tobom! ;) BRAVO!

Jesu, ali njihova bojazan je od vecite annimnosti, ne biti sa Bogom na Ti...
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Postod Dante Al Igijeri u Sre Dec 26, 2012 4:26 pm

Ja licno mislim da ni Andjeli nisu besmrtni po svojoj prirodi,vec da je takav samo Bog.
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 Re: Postojanje DUŠE ???

Postod Julius u Sre Dec 26, 2012 11:23 pm

Ja mislim da dusa ne postoji. Ja se smrti ne plasim, vec je smatram nekom vrstom "naplate duga" tj prirodnim procesom. Dakle,ja umrem-pojede me Zemlja. I hvala joj na tome. Znam odmah da se Japet nece sloziti sa mnom :D
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Postod Japet u Čet Dec 27, 2012 2:37 am

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Postod Julius u Čet Dec 27, 2012 3:11 am

O dobro jutro kume! :lol:
Pa ne znam kume,tad je drugo vreme bilo. Jednostavno, smatram da ne postoji nista iznad prirode. Slozice se sa mnom Diogen Kinik,a to mi je dosta :)
I zasto povezujes to sa materijalizmom. Ja npr. Nisam materijalista,tj. ne marim za materijalno. Ali marim za dobrotu,iskrenost,ljubav... (da ne zvucim sad mnogo emo :D) A to su osobine koje nemaju svi ljudi, i koje se svakako ne mogu opipati. Ja to mogu smatarati "dusom".
Dekart predhriscanski filozof?
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