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Postod Fingolfin The Elf King u Sub Okt 16, 2004 2:41 pm

Citati iz 'Bludnog sina':

'Problem je sto ima suvise Kineza. Kad ubijes Kineza, taj se odmah raspoluti u dva nova Kineza.'
'Zasto im je koza tako zuta?'
'Zato sto piju svoju pisacku umesto vode.'
'Tata, nemoj da pricas detetu takve stvari.'
'Kazi mu onda neka prestane s pitanjima.'

'Nikad se nisam osecao tako dobro. Bilo je bolje od onanije. Isao sam od bureta do bureta. Volsebna stvar. Zasto mi niko ranije nije rekao? Sa ovim, zivot je bio ispunjen, covek je bio savrsen, nedodirljiv.'

'Seli smo na klupu u parkicu i zvakali zvake. A onda pomislih: eto, otkrio sam nesto, nesto sto ce mi pomoci u dugom, dugom vremenu koje dolazi. Trava u parkicu cinila se zelenija, klupe su bolje izgledale, a i cvece kao da je zivnulo. Mozda ta stvar ne valja za hirurge, ali mora da vec u startu nesto fali ljudima koji zele da budu hirurzi.'

'Bas mi je prijalo da pisem o Baronu. Coveku je potreban neko. Nije bilo nikoga u blizini pa sam morao da stvorim nekog, da ga stvorim onakvim kakav bi covek trebalo da bude. To nije bila sarena laza i obmana. Ono drugo je bila sarena laza i obmana: kada zivis zivot bez takvog coveka u blizini.'

'Seo sam na kauc. Lepo je bilo napiti se. Dosao sam do zakljucka da ce mi uvek biti milo da se napijem. Pice je uklanjalo banalnost, a kad bi dovoljno cesto mogao da se uklonis od banalnosti, mozda bi izbegao da i sam postanes banalan.'

'Nema dobrih i losih ratova. Jedina losa stvar u vezi s ratom je poraz. Svi ratovi vodjeni su iz takozvanih dobrih razloga obeju strana. Ali samo je razlog pobednika postajao istorijski plemenit razlog. Ne postavlja se pitanje ko je u pravu a ko ne, vec ko ima bolje generale i bolju vojsku.'

'Odbojna mi je bila svaka ideja da postanem nesto, od toga mi je bilo muka... Da se ozenim, napravim decu, odlazim nekud na posao svakog bozjeg dana i vracam se. Ni u ludilu... Zar je covek samo zato stvoren: da izdrzi sve to i onda umre? Radije bih negde prao sudove, vracao se u svoju rupu i pio dok ne zaspim...'

'Pice je bila jedina stvar koja je cinila da se covek ne oseca vecito zblanut i uzaludan.'

'Ljudi uvek govore o dobrom cistom smradu svezeg znoja. Izvinice za to. Nikada ne govore o dobrom cistom smradu svezeg govneta. Nema u sustini niceg tako mocnog kao sto je dobra pivska kenjaza-mislim, poslije dvadesetak piva ispijenih prethodne noci. Bazd takvog pivskog govneta siri se na sve strane i zadrzava se dobrih sat i po vremena. To cini coveka svesnim da je zaista ziv.'
Perec je škljocnuo zubima, i pregledao sledeći list. To je takođe bilo naređenje: o posmrtnom administrativnom kažnjavanju - novčanom kaznom u visini četvoromesečne plate - psa vodiča oružane straže G. de Monmoransi "koji je nemarno dopustio sebi da ga uništi atmosfersko pražnjenje (munja)."
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Postod GilGaladriel u Pon Okt 18, 2004 2:54 am

++I am sorry. It is hard to convey five dimensional ideas in a language evolved to scream defiance at the monkeys in the other tree. ++
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Postod GilGaladriel u Pon Okt 18, 2004 2:57 am

++I am sorry. It is hard to convey five dimensional ideas in a language evolved to scream defiance at the monkeys in the other tree. ++
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Postod GilGaladriel u Pon Okt 18, 2004 3:00 am

“... You turn up your music to hide the noise. Other people turn up their music to hide yours. You turn up yours again. Everyone buys a bigger stereo system. This is the arms race of sound. You don’t win with a lot of treble.”

Moj omiljeni citata EVER!:
“Old George Orwell got it backward.
Big Brother isn’t watching. He’s singing and dancing. He’s pulling rabbits out of hat. Big Brother’s busy holding your attention every moment you’re awake. He’s making sure you’re always distracted. He’s making sure you’re fully absorbed.
He’s making sure your imagination withers. Until it’s as useful as your appendix. He’s making sure your attention is always filled.
And this being fed, it’s worse than being watched. With the world always filling you, no one has to worry about what’s in your mind. With everyone’s imagination atrophied, no one will ever be a threat to the world.”

“It’s hard to say if that world would be any worse than this, the pounding music, the roar of television, the squawk of radio.
Maybe without Big Brother filling us, people could think.
The upside is maybe our minds would become our own.”

“In egg production, did you know all the male chicks are ground up and spread as fertilizer?”

“‘When you think about it from a native plant perspective,’ Oyster says, ‘Johnny Appleseed was a fucking biological terrorist.’”

“People who claim they can see ghosts are just looking for attention. People who believe in reincarnation are just postponing their lives.”

“And maybe you don’t go to hell for the things you do. Maybe you go to hell for the things you didn’t do.”

Chuck Palahniuk "Lullaby"
++I am sorry. It is hard to convey five dimensional ideas in a language evolved to scream defiance at the monkeys in the other tree. ++
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Postod GilGaladriel u Pon Okt 18, 2004 3:06 am

“The way you can move from city to city and always find a Catholic church, the same Mass said everywhere, no matter what foster place the kid was sent, he could always find the Internet. The truth was, if Christ had laughed at the cross, or spat on the Romans, if he’d done anything more than just suffer, the kid would’ve liked church a lot more.”

“In the summer of 1642. in Plymouth, Massachusetts, a teenage boy was accused of buggering a mare, a cow, two goats, five sheep, two calves and a turkey. This is real history on the books. In accordance with the Biblical laws of Leviticus, after the boy confessed he was forced to watch each animal being slaughtered. Then he was killed and his body heaped with the dead animals and buried in an unmarked pit.
This was before there were sexaholic talk therapy meetings.”

“Instead of useful Pilgrim crap, I tell them how their playground game ring-around-a-rosy is based on the bubonic plague of 1665. The Black Death gave people hard, swollen black spots they called “plague roses”, or buboes, surrounded by a pale ring. Hence “bubonic”. Infected people were locked inside their houses to die. In six months, a hundred thousand people were buried in the huge mass-graves.
The “pocket full of posies” was what the people of London carried so they wouldn’t smell the corpses.”


“ ‘The only thing that separates us from the animals,’ she said, ‘is we have pornography.’ Just more symbols, she said. She wasn’t sure if this made us better than the animals or worse.”

“It’s Miss Mancini, I tell her. My mom’s not married, unless you count me in that creepy Oedipal way.”

“Today, the whole world must be deluded.”

Chuck Palahniuk, "Choke"
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Postod GilGaladriel u Pon Okt 18, 2004 3:08 am

“Condoms ribbed for extrasensitivity.
The last thing I need is sensitivity.
Here are condoms lined with a topical anesthetic for prolonged action. What a paradox. You don’t feel a thing, but you can fuck for hours.
This seems to really miss the point.
I want my whole life lined with a topical anesthetic.”


“Fertility says, ‘Like, how many people do you have to kill to make the jump from serial killer to mass murderer?’”


“The big question people ask isn’t ‘What’s the nature of existence?’ the mouth says. The big question people ask is ‘What’s that from?’


“According to Wendi Daniels, I can smooth out the swelling under my eyes by rubbing in a dab of hemorrhoid cream.”


“How this feels is I’m just another task in God’s daily planner: the Italian Renaissance penciled in for right after the Dark Ages.
To everything there is a season.”


“After the case worker told me about everybody in the Creedish district colony being dead and all, the first thing I did was start smoking.”


“This is fish number six hundred and forty-one in a lifetime of goldfish. My parents bought me the first one to teach me about loving and caring for another living breathing creature of God. Six hundred and forty fish later, the only thing I know is everything you love will die. The first time you meet someone special, you can count on them one day being dead and in the ground.”

Chuck Palahniuk, "Survivor"
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Postod sinfe u Sub Nov 06, 2004 3:08 pm

Borbom nastaju i nestaju sve stvari, Heraklit
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"Nothing is created if it hasn't been dreamt first"
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Postod Nymeria u Sub Nov 13, 2004 12:42 am

Sioran "Silogizmi gorcine"

(uzgred, to sto postavljam ove citate ne znaci da sam na pragu samoubistva, vec da me na neki nacin duboko zabavlja njegov namcorluk, a u nekim izjavama i duboka umna poremecenost.A to je pozitiva!)

Bez nasih sumnji u sebe, nas skepticizam bi bio mrtvo slovo, konvencionalno nespokojstvo, filosofska
doktrina.

Istorija ideja je istorija osvetoljublja samotnika.

Pakao - podjednako tacan kao istrazni postupak
Cistiliste - lazno poput svake aluzije na Nebo
Raj - izlaganje izmisljotina i otuznosti
Danteova trilogija obrazuje najistaknutiju rehabilitaciju djavola koje se poduhvatio jedan hriscanin.

Po koriscenim vidovima izrazavanja, umetnost se orjentise prema besmislu, prema privatnom i nekomunikabilnom
prostoru.Duhovno treperenje, kakvo postoji u slikarstvu, muzici ili poeziji, izgleda nam s pravom zastarelo ili vulgarno.Publika ce ubrzo
isceznuti; umetnost ce je pratiti u korak.Civilizacija koja je zapocela s katedralama morala bi da okonca
u hermetizmu shizofrenije.

Lako je biti ''dubok": dovoljno je dozvoliti da vas preplave sopstvene mane.

Romanticari su bili poslednji specijalisti za samoubistvo.Od tada je ono zamandaljeno...Da bismo doprineli njegovom
kvalitetu, osecamo izuzetnu potrebu za nekim novim zlom u nasem dobu.

Ko je savladao osnove mizantropije, ako bi hteo da ide dalje - mora da se upise u Sviftovu skolu.
Tamo ce nauciti kako da svoj prezir prema ljudima intenzivira do neuralgicnog stepena.

Nista od spasa, osim u oponasanju tisine.Ali, nasa brbljivost je prenatalna.Rasa frazera, verbalnih spermatozoida
mi smo hemijski vezani za Rec.

Pre nego temeljna zabluda, zivot je nedostatak ukusa kojeg smrt, pa ni poezija ne uspevaju da isprave.

Zadatak lucidnosti: dospeti do tacnog beznadja, do olimpske svireposti.

Skeptik bi, kao i ostali ljudi, hteo da pati zbog himera koje sacinjavaju zivot.Ne uspeva u tome, on je mucenik zdravog razuma.

Zasto se ne bih poredio s najvecim svecima?
Jesam li utrosio manje ludila da bih ocuvao sopstvene protivrecnosti nego sto su ga oni potrosili da bi savladali svoje?

Realnost mi izaziva astmu. (epohalna izjava :lol: )

"Ja sam kao slomljena lutka cije su oci okrenute unutra".
Ova rec dusevnog bolesnika tezi vise od mnostva introspektivnih dela.

Death is always less painful and easier than life! You speak true. And yet we do not, day to day, choose death. Because ultimately, death is not the opposite of life, but the opposite of choice.

OMNIA IN NUMERO ET MENSURA
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Postod alcesta u Sub Nov 13, 2004 5:48 pm

What if you slept? And what if, in your sleep, you dreamed? And what if, in your dream, you went to heaven and there plucked a strange and beautiful flower? And what if, when you awoke, you had the flower in your hand? Ah, what then?
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Postod Nymeria u Ned Nov 14, 2004 12:53 am


Death is always less painful and easier than life! You speak true. And yet we do not, day to day, choose death. Because ultimately, death is not the opposite of life, but the opposite of choice.

OMNIA IN NUMERO ET MENSURA
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Postod de Hammo u Pon Nov 15, 2004 3:24 am

"....Onaj ko želi da proučava moju doktrinu mora da prihvati i zapamti sledeće:
Ne imaj zle misli.
Marljivo sledi put škole nitenićiriju (dva neba jedna škola)
Gaji u sebi široko interesovanje za umetnost.
Nauči što više možeš o raznim zanimanjima.
Shvati prednosti i mane, dobitak i gubitak u svim stvarima.
Razvij sposobnosti da shvatiš istinu o svim stvarima.
Zapazi ono što se okom ne može videti.
Ne budi nemaran, čak ni u beznačajnim stvarima.
Ne upuštaj se u beskorisne aktivnosti.
..."

"Mentalni stav u vojnoj doktrini (heiho ni okeru kokoro no moći koto)

Mentalni stva onih koji idu putem vojne doktrine ne razlikuje se od mentalnog stava običnih ljudi. Taj stav isti je i u mirno vreme i u vreme bitke. Trudi se da do istine dođeš široko otvorenog srca. Čuvaj se da ne budeš napet, ali i da i misli suviše ne odlutaju. Budi uvek koncentrisan na ono što je najvažnije, ne dozvoli mislima da se kolebaju. Umiri svoje misli ali, istovremeno, zadrži jasnoću u njima. Uvek budi pokretljiv i prilagodljiv, budi slobodnog i otvorenog uma.žBudi koncentrisan čak i kada se telo odmara. Čak i kad si u pokretu, kad se brzo krećeš, budi miran i smirenog uma. Ne dozvoli da ti um poremeti ravnotežu tela, niti telo ravnotežu uma. Pažnju obrati na sopstveni um, na telo zaboravi. Neka um tvoj prima sva saznanja i neka ne bude zauzet trivijalnostima.žne budi previše obuzet površnostima. Ojačaj svoj duh i ponašaj se tako da sve tvoje tajne ne budu poznate drugima.
Ljudi niski rastom treba da znaju kako izgleda biti visok, kao što i visoki rastom moraju znati kako izgleda biti nizak. I visoki i niski treba da budu iskreni i otvorena srca, i da ne dozvole da ih smete svest o sopstvenim dimenzijama.
Sve stvari se moraju razmotriti otvorenog srca i bez kompleksa. Vrlo je važno da se ulaže napor na unapređenju i znanja i duha.
Proširi svoja znanja i poznaj pravdu i nepravdu u svetu. Znaj šta je dobro a šta zo. Upoznaj puteve različitih umetnosti i veština. Kada dođeš u stanje u kome ljudi više ne mogu da te obmanu, po prvi put ćeš shvatiti suštinu mudrosti vojne doktrine."

"Sveobuhvatni udarac (en no atari to ju koto)

Kada izvodiš udarac, a protivnik pokuša da ga parira, jednim pokretom udari ga i u glavu i u ruke i u noge. Jednim pokretom, jednim osećajem, pogodi ga svugde. To je en no atari, sveobuhvatni udarac...."

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Oblique strategy number 56: Balance the consistency principle with the inconsistency principle.
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Postod Nymeria u Pon Nov 15, 2004 4:28 am

Ovo mi se svidja :)


Par mojih omiljenih citata (jos od pre par godina, kasnije sam izgubila naviku da zapisujem):


..."kad mastilo sazri u krv, svi ce znati
da isto je pevati i umirati"...
Miljkovic

Mene vise niko ne moze prepoznati
ja sam zgrcena
gomila zila.
Sta takva gomila pozeleti moze
a mnogo hoce takva gomila"
...
"Gledajte-ja sam spokojan ko
bilo
pokojnika"
...
"Ponekad i u izgoreloj kuci
skitnice nadju dom!
Izazivate?
Manje no prosjak kopejaka
vi imate smaragda bezumlja"
...
"Da li ste najstrasnije
videli
lice moje
kada sam
ja
apsolutno spokojan?"
...
"Iskocicu!Iskocicu!Iskocicu!Iskocicu!
Survava se i puca.
Iskociti neces iz srca!"
Majakovski

"Istorija misli je kao drama sa mnogo cinova"
Gorder
"Pravi uvid daje samo ona spoznaja koja dolazi iznutra"
Gorder

"Samo je onaj veliki ko pretvara glas vetra u pesmu jos umilniju od njegove ljubavi"
Dzubran
"Zivot je pomrcina, osim kad postoji nagon.
A svaki nagon je slep, osim kad ide uz znanje.
A svako znanje je uzaludno, osim kad ide uz rad.
A svaki rad je prazan, osim kad ide uz ljubav.
A kada radite s ljubavlju, vezujete se za sebe, i jedni za druge, i za Boga"
Dzubran
"Bices istinski slobodan ne onda kad ti dani budu bez brige, a noci bez teskobe, vec onda kada sve to opase tvoj zivot, a ti se ipak uzdignes iznad toga, nag i nesputan"
Dzubran
"Sta je vas prijatelj da biste ga trazili kako biste prekratili vreme?Trazite ga uvek da biste s njim vreme proziveli."
Dzubran
"Lepota je vecnost sto se ogleda u ogledalu"
Dzubran

"Cesto, kroz godine tek sto se probilo,
u potpunom obliku se pomalja.
Sto valja, to se rad trenutka rodilo,
potomstvu ostaje sto valja.
...
Cim srca gane i nasladjuje?
Stihiju svaku cim savladjuje?
Nije l' to sklad iz grudi sto se izvije,
i svet u srce natrag upije?
...
Ko stiti Olimp, bogove saziva?
Moc ljudska - koja se u pesniku otkriva."
Gete
"I glumu treba tako dati:
u ljudski zivot samo zahvatite puni!
Zivi ga svak', a malo ga ko shvati;
ma gde ga scepao, zanimljiv on je svugde.
...
Ko je vec gotov, on je probirac,
ko postaje, zahvalan bice taj."
Gete
"Starost nas ne podetinji, izraz je los-
starost nas zatice ko pravu decu jos."
Gete


...dalje me mrzi da kucam.Drugi put :)

Death is always less painful and easier than life! You speak true. And yet we do not, day to day, choose death. Because ultimately, death is not the opposite of life, but the opposite of choice.

OMNIA IN NUMERO ET MENSURA
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Postod GilGaladriel u Uto Nov 16, 2004 10:26 pm

++I am sorry. It is hard to convey five dimensional ideas in a language evolved to scream defiance at the monkeys in the other tree. ++
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Postod DevouredSoul u Sre Nov 17, 2004 12:56 am

...a grlo luta britvom...
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Postod Fingolfin The Elf King u Sre Nov 17, 2004 10:31 pm

Perec je škljocnuo zubima, i pregledao sledeći list. To je takođe bilo naređenje: o posmrtnom administrativnom kažnjavanju - novčanom kaznom u visini četvoromesečne plate - psa vodiča oružane straže G. de Monmoransi "koji je nemarno dopustio sebi da ga uništi atmosfersko pražnjenje (munja)."
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