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Hazarski Recnik, M. Pavic

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Postod Dain u Sub Avg 07, 2004 11:07 am

E pa ako mislite da je Hazarski rechnik knjiga u kojoj se nalazi samo magla, onda ga verovatno niste dovoljno pazhljivo chitali... I'll say no more...

A shto se tiche Borhesa, njih dvojica imaju po meni slichan sentiment pisanja i taj neki kvazimitoloshki pristup. Zato sam ga naveo... :):):)
"Willing is not enough, we must do. Knowing is not enough, we must apply."

"I don't like jellyfish, they're not a fish, they're just a blob
They don't have eyes, fins or scales, like a cod
They float about stingin' people in the seas
An' no one eats jellyfish with chips and mushy peas.
Get rid of them!"
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Postod Alef u Sub Avg 07, 2004 12:15 pm

Ja lično nisam očekivao ništa — a upravo to sam i dobio :), tako da se nisam uopšte razočarao u knjigu.

Čak mi je isprva bila i veoma zanimljiva — gomila nepovezanih i potpuno nebuloznih stvari, gde ni jedna ne sledi iz prethodne. Povezivanje reči u neobične, izuzetno eufonične, sklopove koji apsolutno ništa ne znače, ali su, kao što rekoh, izuzetno eufonični. Ali kada sam shvatio da on pokušava da, po rečima Sabata: „Iz te detinjaste zbrke izvlači neku vrstu opake parabole…” Eh, tuga…

Zbog toga se slažem sa Eladanovom konstatacijom da je knjiga precenjena.
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Postod Eladan u Pon Avg 09, 2004 10:03 am

...To stand against the Shadow so long as iron is hard and stone abides. To defend the weak while one drop of blood remains. To avenge what cannot be defended...
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Postod Aradela u Pon Avg 09, 2004 11:08 am

Porediti Pvica i Kuelja?!? Cista gluipost. Citala sam ih obojicu, i Kuelja i ne volim nesto previse (svega tri knjige mi se dopadaju), dok kod Pavica sam obozavala svaku rec koju sam procitala.
Kazes mi da moram da nestanem
Kao cvece koje negujem
Nista od mog imena da ne ostane
Nista slavno da ne postane
Ali jos su mlade baste koje zalivah
Pevace se opet pesme koje pevah.


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Postod Golumov alter ego u Pon Avg 09, 2004 12:01 pm

"I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries."  :$morningtea:
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Postod Varda u Pon Avg 09, 2004 12:53 pm

bilo bi lepo da se ova tema ne pretvori u pljuvanje koelja. to ste odradili na drugoj temi i stvarno dosta bre vise s tim. taj covek kao pisac ne zasluzuje toliko bas paznje, zar ne?
"neizrecivo je i bezimeno ono što mojoj duši stvara muku i slast i što je još i glad moje utrobe..."
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Postod Aradela u Pon Avg 09, 2004 1:45 pm

Ne zasluzuje nimalo paznje, slazem se.
Kazes mi da moram da nestanem
Kao cvece koje negujem
Nista od mog imena da ne ostane
Nista slavno da ne postane
Ali jos su mlade baste koje zalivah
Pevace se opet pesme koje pevah.


moj blog http://doktorkabg.blogspot.com/[/color]
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Postod Eladan u Uto Avg 10, 2004 10:05 am

...To stand against the Shadow so long as iron is hard and stone abides. To defend the weak while one drop of blood remains. To avenge what cannot be defended...
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Postod Aradela u Uto Avg 10, 2004 12:48 pm

Kazes mi da moram da nestanem
Kao cvece koje negujem
Nista od mog imena da ne ostane
Nista slavno da ne postane
Ali jos su mlade baste koje zalivah
Pevace se opet pesme koje pevah.


moj blog http://doktorkabg.blogspot.com/[/color]
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Postod Varda u Uto Avg 10, 2004 1:42 pm

"neizrecivo je i bezimeno ono što mojoj duši stvara muku i slast i što je još i glad moje utrobe..."
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Postod Varda u Uto Avg 10, 2004 1:48 pm

"neizrecivo je i bezimeno ono što mojoj duši stvara muku i slast i što je još i glad moje utrobe..."
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Postod alcesta u Uto Avg 10, 2004 4:37 pm

Meni se Pavić ne sviđa nešto posebno, mislim da mu je celokupno delo razvodnjavanje 3-4 priče u različitim kontekstima. Ali mislim da je "Hazarski rečnik" sjajna knjiga i da je dovoljno što je to napisao da ga ne osuđujem za sve ostalo. Mnogo ga cenim i kao prevodioca. A da li je inače precenjen ili nije o tome nisam raspoložena da sudim. Kad god se neki domaći pisac proslavi u svetskim okvirima, nisam spremna da tražim dlaku u jajetu u smislu je li to zaslužio ili ne, više sam navijački nastrojena u tom pogledu. :lol:

A pogotovo mi nije jasno kako ga možete porediti sa Koeljom, no neću sad da se vraćam na to, dotični stvarno ne zaslužuje da se troši toliko reči na njega. Problem je što sam čitala Hazarski rečnik pre 10 godina, pa bih sad možda i promenila mišljenje; ali dok to ne učinim ponovo, ono ostaje takvo kakvo je.
What if you slept? And what if, in your sleep, you dreamed? And what if, in your dream, you went to heaven and there plucked a strange and beautiful flower? And what if, when you awoke, you had the flower in your hand? Ah, what then?
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Postod Dain u Sre Avg 11, 2004 1:13 am

"Willing is not enough, we must do. Knowing is not enough, we must apply."

"I don't like jellyfish, they're not a fish, they're just a blob
They don't have eyes, fins or scales, like a cod
They float about stingin' people in the seas
An' no one eats jellyfish with chips and mushy peas.
Get rid of them!"
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Postod Aradela u Sre Avg 11, 2004 6:50 am

Kazes mi da moram da nestanem
Kao cvece koje negujem
Nista od mog imena da ne ostane
Nista slavno da ne postane
Ali jos su mlade baste koje zalivah
Pevace se opet pesme koje pevah.


moj blog http://doktorkabg.blogspot.com/[/color]
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Postod Varda u Sre Avg 11, 2004 9:44 am

"neizrecivo je i bezimeno ono što mojoj duši stvara muku i slast i što je još i glad moje utrobe..."
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